Now we have nothing against or New Mexico, for that matter. How can you hate anything a.k.a. the Land of Enchantment? It’s a spiritual place, unlike its next door neighbor, Arizona, Land of Repressive Law.
Anyway, thanks to the casino dole, a Grade 3 in New Mexico will have a profound effect on the Kentucky Derby. Whoever wins it, know that there only will be 19 remaining stalls in the Louisville starting gates once the race is made official.
With half of the $800,000 purse going to the winner, whoever finishes first is virtually guaranteed a spot in America’s Race. Who knows, we could be talking about the next Mine That Bird, winner of the 2009 Kentucky Derby at triple digits?
Now, we have nothing against Chip Wooley, either, a good man and capable horseman, but did anyone ever take his horse very seriously before or after the big day? It took a sloppy track and death-defying rail skimmer from Calvin Borel to get that job done.
And, of course, that was the last victory of his career. In fact, until Animal Kingdom won his turf return at the current Gulfstream Park meet, Big Brown was the last horse to win a race subsequent to the Derby, but I digress.
It likely is that Mine That Bird will prove to be the exception; the Sunland Derby winner repeating in Louisville. Everybody knows this, but he will be there trying if he comes back well.
The point is this that as it stands now, the Grade 3 Sunland Derby is as important to Derby eligibility as the Grade 1 Wood Memorial, Santa Anita Derby, Blue Grass or Arkansas Derby, traditional final Derby preps in which good horses must face other good horses.
The Sunland Derby winner does not have to beat one serious divisional contender to punch his ticket to Kentucky. Does that sound like the Kentucky Derby will be all that it can be?
Of the eight starters, only two are graded winners this late in the game, each with one victory in that class; Castaway, a division of the G3 Southwest Stakes, a prep for the prep for the Arkansas Derby, and Daddy Knows Best, winner of the G3 El Camino Real Derby on Golden Gate’s Tapeta surface.
The connections, however, are more significant than the horses. Bob Baffert also entered an uncoupled stablemate, Stirred Up, who has more than a puncher’s chance. Todd Pletcher entered Ender Knieval, with a puncher’s chance,
Steve Asmussen, meanwhile, will try to make it two straight with Daddy Nose Best, who is a worthy Derby candidate, to be sure. But the thing is that a first, or even second-place finish in some cases, by any of the big three trainers would allow them mega-multiple Derby horses, to the exclusion of others with more demonstrable class.
As it stands now, if Gemologist or Alpha, rated among the Top half-dozen on just about anyone’s list, do not pick up a lion’s share of a graded purse next out, then they won’t be dancing on May’s first Saturday. Why do you think Alpha has been re-routed something like four times? He’s proven his class but lacks the graded money.
Does that make sense? Does the graded earnings eligibility rule make sense? Since the Derby has become the only race America pays attention to anymore, Derby eligibility rules shouldn’t be skewered to getting the best of the best in the gate six weeks from now?
Deja Vu All Over Again
Or circle marks the spot, as New York-bred Went The Day Well took the lead at headstretch and, despite racing greenly, gathered himself a furlong from home and drew out to a clear cut score in the G3 Vinery Spiral Stake.
In taking the half-million Turfway Park centerpiece, Went the Day well emulated stablemate Animal Kingdom, who parlayed his Spiral victory last year into a Kentucky Derby title. The victory gave Johnny Velazquez a sweep of the Bourbonette Oaks and Spiral.
Unlike Animal Kingdom who had no dirt experience going into the Derby, Went the Day Well broke his maiden on the dirt at Gulfstream Park March 3. Todd Pletcher’s longer half of his uncoupled entry, Holiday Promise, finished second while the better regarded entrant, Heavy Breathing, the pressured pace setter was third.
Handsome Mike, the anticipated pacesetter, broke tardily from the extreme outside in the two turn event, raced very wide while well back into the first turn, but rallied gamely in deep stretch and finished a very respectable fourth.
So, what about this colt, Mr. Motion, any plans beyond this?
"I was very impressed with him,” said Motion. “Apart from a little greenness (in the stretch) he couldn't have been better. When Animal Kingdom won this race last year, he was very explosive, but this horse was a little explosive, too
"The beauty of this race is you have the option to run him one more time or not run more time. Probably the only option is the Lexington Stakes. "I feel confident telling you this horse will run in the Kentucky Derby," Motion continued…
Extra, Extra, Read All About It
Newsdad, cleverly ridden by Julien Leparoux and in receipt of six pounds from main rival Simmard, won the G2 Pan American Stakes by two lengths over Hailstone, who finished a neck ahead of second favorite Simmard in 2:24.93 for the mile and a half in a field reduced to four after two program scratches.
“It’s definitely tougher to ride in these types of races with short fields,” said Leparoux. “You can either go and try and clear on the lead or take back. Bill’s other horse [Motion, trainer of the winner] seemed to have a little more speed so I took back.”
“It was the weight,” said Simmard’s trainer, Roger Attfield. “Under allowance conditions, we won a Grade 2 and they haven’t, so we give them six pounds at a mile and a half. We got beat by a good horse.”



24 Mar 2012 at 09:14 pm | #
Wrong time to mention New Mexico. Apparently you haven’t read the devastating article in this Sunday’s New York Times regarding racing. If gas prices, pathetic fields and the lack of spending money weren’t enough to cause concern within the industry this article might nail the coffin shut.I’m still pissed about Life at Ten.
24 Mar 2012 at 10:29 pm | #
JP,
My memory is so bad that I couldn’t function any more without Google.
I watch Mine That Bird’s incredible stretch run at least once a month because it was arguably the most thrilling half mile in racing. I still gasp when Borel gets through like an express train on the rail without hatm to any horse or rider.
However, there was no victory in the Sunland Derby to provide handicappers with a clue to his potential; only his pressing the early pace prior to finishing 4th in that event.
If WTDW wins this year’s Kentucky Derby, Turfway will have to implement some Spiral Stakes quality-preference eligibility policy. Let’s hope they give cumulative graded stakes finish point totals careful consideration.
24 Mar 2012 at 10:33 pm | #
Think we need a “Supreme Court of Racing,” all 9 gelded males, sworn to a vow of poverty, living a secluded life, their sole purpose being to rank all those horses interested in running in the Kentucky Derby. Their word would be the law, and would be final. Aged turf writers would be the best candidates. This would solve this problem once and for all.
TTT
24 Mar 2012 at 10:40 pm | #
T, where’s this anger coming from? In a perfect world, which this certainly is not, would you like to see the most proven among the class get their chance to win America’s Race?
I know, TTT, the open nature of the Derby is part of its charm. But somewhere came up with the graded earnings rule. How about one that rewards achievement, not winning the most money while taking the path of least resistance?
And, besides, you’re as aged as you fell, right?
24 Mar 2012 at 11:18 pm | #
Truly Tough Turfster,
Does PETA have a position on gelding? As medical records for humans seem more readily available than those for equines, wouldn’t enlarged prostates provide proper preparation for the priceless position of probing the participant preference process?
25 Mar 2012 at 02:58 am | #
No anger; failed levity. I’m all for creating an equitable system, with such ideas as put together by Indulto. Otherwise, Frank Stronach will build a racetrack on the moon, with a corresponding horse shuttle that costs $20,000,000 round trip. He will then sponsor a race, will somehow get it graded, run only his horses in it, with a $20,000,000 purse, paying out $1,000,000 to all entrants, and all 20 of his horses will get in the Derby. Now, tell me, would that be fair?
TTT
25 Mar 2012 at 03:13 am | #
So what’s the beef? If Sunland Park were given more exposure by turf writers, the track wouldn’t have to be described as located a few miles from El Paso; and how is the track’s name, with the word casino in it, any different than numberous other racetracks around the country, like Gulfstream, Calder, Fair Grounds, Delaware, Philly, Zia, Mountaineer, Finger Lakes, et cetera. In fact don’t the majority of racetracks in this Obama led country now have the word casino in their name and aren’t the purses fueled by casino dole?
So what’s the beef about ‘the Sunland Derby winner does not have to beat one serious divisional winner (sounds like a sport doesn’t it?) to punch his ticket to the Kentucky Derby’.
I read the purses at Sunland today total $1,643,100, and that the usual suspects have entered horses: Pletcher, Baffert, and Asmussen.
The qualifier for the Kentucky Derby is entered in a stake races with an insane purse. Why shouldn’t the winner go to the Derby? As money is the criterion to get into the Derby, trainers with thoroughbreds they think could win the Derby should have entered their plodders in the Sunland race - the three usual suspects burned rubber getting their horses to El Paso.
If a horse wins any stake race, money won should count toward eligibility for the Derby. Grade I, II, or III stake races should have been scrapped years ago (this ain’t a sport, Alice).
You know my thoughts on the Kentucky Derby: a race lasting a bit over 2 minutes, run once a year, with the usual suspects, involving twenty horses in a stampede down the backstretch as the stewards put on blind folds ‘cause they ain’t about to declare a foul and lose their job. Yup, the Kentucky Derby, America’s race*, the perfect example of everyday racing in this land.
*Only because it is the only race turf writers write about for the first four months of each year.
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Nice card at Philly today. A couple races at Tampa look interesting also.
I note that the win/place/show pools are still the preferred wager of the majority of bettors. Exacta, and trifecta follow. The pick four is more popular than the pick three, though it is much more difficult to win.
25 Mar 2012 at 06:59 am | #
I, excellent alliteration.
T, moon transport provided by Newt
* we love betting Tampa
25 Mar 2012 at 07:44 am | #
Here’s another scenario. Just completed my analysis of the 8 entrants in the Sunland Derby. Picture this, 3 of the contestants scratch, leaving 5 runners. The gate breaks, and one horse loses a rider, leaving 4 runners remaining. A pile up as they turn for home, and 3 horses fall, and out of the clouds No. 8-Justanoldsong is the only horse left standing, and gets his place in the Derby? Stranger things have happened.
TTT
25 Mar 2012 at 08:04 am | #
Happy Sunland Derby Day! To the best Turf writer and commentors on this planet.
Daddy NOSE Best is ON THE ROAD AGAIN! From Churchill to Saratoga to Woodbine back to Churchill to Santa Anita to Golden Gate to Sunland. Nothing wrong with his credentials to punch a ticket to the KY. Derby, even if it’s by the way of synthetics. The rules are the rules, and he did out game another Team Valor juggernaut Lucky Chappy last out.
Speaking of Team Valor, Went The Day Well is a lock for the Triple Crown. The NY Derby(Finger Lakes), Mike Lee(Belmont) and Albany(Saratoga).
Don’t Knock Mine That Bird, he followed his Derby win with a game effort in the Preakness, just ran into a pretty good gal named Rachel A. that day. The ROAD to the Derby can take it’s toll.
On the road again
Just can’t wait to get on the road again
The life I love is making music with my friends
And I can’t wait to get on the road again
On the road again
Goin’ places that I’ve never been
Seein’ things that I may never see again
And I can’t wait to get on the road again
On the road again
Like a band of gypsies we go down the highway
We’re the best of friends
Insisting that the world keep turning our way
And our way
Is on the road again
I just can’t wait to get on the road again
The life I love is making music with my friends
And I can’t wait to get on the road again
25 Mar 2012 at 09:24 am | #
As always JP, a very enjoyable read. If David Miltch picked the Mine that Bird and Chip Wooley story line the series LUCK would still be on. Many stories with at least 3 top Trainers covering the 8 starters. Baffert ,Todd, Steve. Imagine Chip sitting in his pickup driving cross country with the Bird in a trailer. Cruches and all. We could have seen up close the journey, the Dream, the Winner of the Greatest race in the Country. It gives me chills. LoL
Anyway, I like Castaway to win today. Key in exotics for me.
25 Mar 2012 at 11:05 am | #
DH, you’re right, love the scenario, and we’ll get Elmore Leonard to write it (Justified, best show on the air)?
Not that the writers did a bad job, they were great, at least one good belly laugh per show. (Sometimes it pays to be a DG).
Cat, you’re too sharp for me; the NY Triple Crown; love it! And don’t think it’s ever been done. Help me here.
T, I don’t know what to say; starting to worry about you.
25 Mar 2012 at 12:45 pm | #
Preach,
Tin Cup Chalice in 2008 is the only winner of the Big Apple Triple Crown. He also won the Indiana Derby that year over a horse named Pyro. He was a favorite of mine. TCC died too young, in a freak accident working out at Finger Lakes. Maybe NYRA could land a sponsor(World Resorts Casino) to lure Team Valor’s WTDW.
Just read the NY Times article which is free on line at their website. Not a pretty picture painted for New Mexico tracks. No wonder the Sunland Derby drew only 8 entries(third stringers for the big trainers) for a $800,000 purse and automatic entry to the Ky Derby for the winner.
25 Mar 2012 at 05:05 pm | #
I’ll be damned if I bet another race from the state of New Mexico. I won’t even bet a 10-cent superfecta. In fact I doubt I’ll bet on another race from Aqueduct or NYRA. Did you notice that the breakdown rate from the state of Kentucky (which has year-round) racing was extremely low. 1. Kentuckians love their horses and 2. There are 2 synthetic tracks in Kentucky plus one all-turf track (Kentucky Downs).
HORSE RACING IS IN COMPLETE DISARRAY. And the drug element that so many deny goes all the way to the top. Wasn’t Bob Baffert a Quarter Horse guy first before he went to thoroughbreds? Have you ever counted Baffert’s drug violations?
IN FACT AT EVERY CIRCUIT, THE TRAINERS WHO LEAD THE STANDINGS IN WINS ALSO LEAD THE STANDINGS IN DRUG VIOLATIONS.
Maybe that’s just a coincidence.
25 Mar 2012 at 05:09 pm | #
One follow-up, I got banned from the Paulick Report about a year and a half ago because I was making the SAME accusations that were in the NY Times article. Paulick said I was “Too negative.”
Now he’s prancing around like he’s going to save racing by reporting and giving scoops to his followers.
You see, my accusations were bad for his business.
Ray, dead jockeys and horses are bad for your business too.
25 Mar 2012 at 05:17 pm | #
Mark, you have been duped by the charts given with the article. Those aren’t breakdown rates, those are what they are calling “incident” rates, culling key words from the charts. At tracks like Saratoga, you are going to get way more van off than say, Finger Lakes, because the horses are worth so much more the jocks and trainers aren’t going to take any chance if they suspect something may be off. A horse suffering exhaustion will be vanned there, At a cheap track, he’ll be hosed off, wait til he gets his legs again, and walked off. I think it was 2 years ago when there was a single death on the track at Saratoga, and that was due to a heart attack after the race. The numbers are skewed at the higher end tracks.
25 Mar 2012 at 06:06 pm | #
OK, I guess the dead jockeys were just a fallacy and the fact that breakdowns occur in the US at a much higher rate than other countries was a bold-face lie? Did you know some thoroughbred horses in South America start upwards of 50 times a year?
Was the story wrong about the multiple drug violations by New Mexico trainers “just made up?”
Was my assurtion that the leading trainers on most circuits also lead in drug violations? I suggest you do a web search on “Bob Baffert drug violations” and see for yourself.
25 Mar 2012 at 06:10 pm | #
And please PLEASE GOD, KEEP DOUG O’NEIL AWAY FROM A RACINO!!!!!
25 Mar 2012 at 06:17 pm | #
The fact that they took “Luck” off the air when they did was “Lucky”. The show alluded to shady owners, trainers out for the almighty buck.
If the show continued, it would only have raised more suspicions about the sport. I truly believe that the horse racing people pulled the plug because they knew the NY Times report was coming out.
Ive been a horse racing fan for over 40 years. The golden decade of racing was the 1970’s when so many great horses strutted their stuff. Since then, we’ve seen very good horses retire after less than 10 starts. Our drug sniffing stallions and broodmares are producing crack foals that are making USA horses weaker and weaker, and the Times never brought that up.
25 Mar 2012 at 09:28 pm | #
Tobasco Cat, nice call baby; that’s what I love, good, strong opinions, wrong or right. Enjoy the opinions of others on this site, although it seems many are hesitant to give theirs.
TTT
TTT
TTT
25 Mar 2012 at 09:32 pm | #
Here’s an interesting page from 2000. Baffert’s horse gets a positive test in a race at Hollywood Park. The drug is Morphine. Baffert suggests that his grooms eat baked goods at the barn and poppy seeds probably contaminated the horse. The groom admits that Baffert encouraged him to say he ate baked goods at the barn, but the investigators find out that the groom NEVER eats baked goods while handling the horses. That’s your HALL OF FAMER
http://a.espncdn.com/horse/news/2001/0621/1216845.html
25 Mar 2012 at 09:59 pm | #
Considering Baffert coerced a witness to lie to investigators, shouldn’t he have been given a lifetime ban?
26 Mar 2012 at 04:58 am | #
markinsac, I believe this was the matter that was intensely litigated by Mr. Baffert, and which, he initially won, but was overturned. I read the link you provided, and don’t seem to find the word NEVER in the testimony you refer to:
Groom Clemintino Abrego Garcia, testified that he has been licensed by the California Horse Racing Board for 13 years, and that he had been in the employ of Respondent for 3 years. Mr. Abrego stated that “Nautical Look” had been shipped from Santa Anita, to Hollywood Park for a race scheduled for May 3, 2000. He served as the horse’s groom for one day, prior to the race. May 3, 2000 was a day off for Abrego, and his friend took care of “Nautical Look.” Since the notification of the positive finding, Abrego has been contacted telephonically by Respondent on three or four occasions. Abrego stated that he was informed that he was not to blame for the problems, and that he needed to tell the truth. He was encouraged by respondent to admit that he had eaten bakery products while in close proximity to “Nautical Look.” He testified that he had not consumed any food while handling the horse.
Perhaps I missed it, and there is other testimony, not contained in the link you provided.
Think we need to give the benefit of the doubt to trainers in many cases. When we group all “drug” violations together, and state that trainers have “numerous” drug violations, we have to be careful, as most of these violations are overages of normal therapeutic medications, and give the wrong impression when grouped together with such violations such as opiate derivatives. Also, it is impossible for trainers to observe their horses 24 hours a day, especially with trainers such as Mr. Baffert, who has many horses. I understand that it is still their responsibility, but we all know that security is far from perfect, and many individuals are capable of coming in contact with these animals. So, in all fairness, I offer this information, and opine that it is quite drastic to say that Mr. Baffert should be banned for life.
TTT
TTT
26 Mar 2012 at 06:58 am | #
Markinsac,
If you read the notation at the bottom of the comment section, you’ll see that readers are barred here for other reasons; foul language, personal attacks, things of that nature. Free discourse is encouraged, not suppressed
But your comments here are very negative and and it seems as if there’s some agenda at work vis a vis the trainers you name, IMO. But…
HRI has ALWAYS been about a free exchange of ideas, many of them not very pretty, some even written by me, in fact. But I don’t know where to begin with the NY Times piece published Sunday online.
First, as has been stated here many times, shame on the Thoroughbred industry for not yet having uniform rules ,for not barring race-day medication (reneging on the Lasix ban on 2YOs, Breeders’ Cup notwithstanding), for the lack of transparency; all of it.
But the Times piece, which totaled 18 printed pages, was, at its core disingenuous at best, agenda driven at worst, in my view.
How can four reporters sharing a byline, and two more staff contributors, raise so manty questions then leave them unanswered. In the paper of record? And forget making an attempt at balance.
To freely inter-change Quarterhorse with Thoroughbred racing; cherry picking statistics supported by sound byte quotes; the retelling the Jacky Martin story with his replete with his off-track issues; members of one family in the New Mexico Quarterhorse community having ties to a Mexican drug cartel, one of them caught transporting a serious amount of weight, intimating that even in New Mexico, lax rules and all, that EVERYONE involved in the game there deserves to be painted with the same brush is patently unfair.
A commenter recently wrote here that I do my best work when I’m angry. That’s probably true; some stories just seem to write themselves. But the Times piece leaves me absolutely speechless in its total disregard for balance.
To tell the story of the family that went to Ruidoso with small children and how horrifying it was to see a horse broken down, the bone in its leg breaking “through the skin,” then say that some racing officials want to hide these breakdowns from fans by putting up a screen when horses require euthanizing is just so duplicitous. Maybe that’s why there are and should minimum age laws for admission.
I guess no one remembers Ron McAnally crying on TV in the aftermath of the Go for Wand tragedy? I saw grown men in the press box cry. No reasonable human being wants to see an animal harmed. Of course young children would be mortified.
I’ve written here many times that the game gets what it deserves, but not this time. This was the cheapest of all shots across racing’s bow. TB racing, for all its problems, many of which are self-created, cares deeply about, and fo,r its athletes, human and equine. My friend Joe Drape, a good reporter, a good man, and lover of the game must have cringed when he was handed this one-sided assignment.
Why not go after fighting in hockey with the same zeal? Why not make the link between the almost draconian punishment of NO Saints coaches when what that measure might have been about are the law suits of former injured players that could bring the mighty NFL to its economic knees? Or what about the continued juicing in baseball?
Not all coaches are pedofiles, just like not all horsemen--even in New Mexico--are cheaters. QH racing is not TB racing. But horse racing in general is taking hits from everywhere nowadays but it’s no longer in fashion. Nothing requiring nuance and patience is in fashion, and that makes for an easy target for the politically correct police and blogosphere driven sensationalism.
26 Mar 2012 at 06:58 am | #
TTT, I appreciate your effort to set the record straight. But your rebuttal comes up short. You say Baffert should be given the benefit of the doubt because i use the word “never”? It clerly states that the groom said he didn’t eat anything while taking care of the horse. And it clearly states that Baffert tried to have him give false testimony to investigators. The NY Times article pointed out how lenient the authorities have been with offenders. You cry out for more leniency, when THAT is what is ruining the sport. When Baseball had a steriod problem, they did something about it. We keep sweeping this problem under the rug. Here are UNDENIAB FACTS:
MOST OF THE TOP TRAINERS HAVE THE MOST DRUG VIOLATIONS, STEVE ASSMUSSEN IS THE WORLDWIDE CHAMPION.
HORSES IN THE UNITED STATES BREAK DOWN AT A HIGHER RATE THAN OTHER COUNTRIES, AND THAT’S WITH GETTING MUCH FEWER STARTS PER YEAR.
HORSES THAT RACE AT RACINOS BREAK DOWN AT A HIGHER RATE THAN NON-RACINOS
HORSES THAT RACE AT SYNTHETIC BREAK DOWN AT A SIGNICANTLY LOWER RATE THAN DIRT TRACKS.
AMERICAN-BRED HORSES AREN’T AS STRONG AS THEIR FOREIGN RIVALS BECAUSE MORE THAN LIKELY, THEIR PARENTS WERE DURG ADDICTS TOO. REMEMBER ANIMAL KINGDOM’S BREEDING, AND THE OWNER TAKING THE HORSE AWAY FROM PLETCHER.
Some are criticising the NY Times, but I feel it’s about time horse racing looked at it’s problems square in the eye and attempted to solve them. If they continue, they will end up where greyhound racing ended up. If the Times got a few facts wrong, that doesn’t make the whole report wrong.
I love horse racing and i love horses. I am hoping for a clean sport. No disrespect at all Teddy. I respect your opinions, you are truly just like me, a fan of the game.
26 Mar 2012 at 07:14 am | #
Mr. Pricci, I backed up my claims with actual documents from the case. I DO have an agenda, not to close down horse racing, but to clean it up. I live in California, a great horse racing state. I’ve seen John Henry, Seattle Slew, Affirmed, Spectadular Bid, Sunday Silence and Zenyatta race. I’ve got all kinds of Zenyatta memorabilia. I love going to Del Mar, Hollywood Park and Santa Anita. I love the jocks, old and new. I remember Shoemaker, Pincay and Delahousee. I think Rick Dominguez in New York is one of the hardest working jockeys Ive ever seen.
But Ive seen the sport take a turn for the worst. From trainers with 45% win percentages just shouldn;t happen in a long meet. I used to go the live track about 70 times a year. Since Zenyatta retired, I’ve gone a grand total of 3 times (in a year and a half).
When something like this comes out, so many of you come to the defense of the titans of horse racing. I think it’s about time we start sticking up for the horses, jockeys and all the hard working trainers and backstretch workers who do it honestly. Their time has come.
26 Mar 2012 at 07:29 am | #
With the economy is such disarray, numerous people unemployed, and many individuals and households without health insurance, one would tend to think that Sunland Park’s management, who funnel money to the racetrack side for purses, would utilize their profits in a more responsible manner instead of simply tossing thousands more dollars into purses that do nothing but make a handful of owners, trainers, and jockeys rich.
Some facts on Sunday’s racing at Sunland Park, where the purses totaled $1,643,000.
a) attendance 18,384
b) ontrack wagering totaled $404,446
c) ontrack per capita wagering was $22
d) total all-source handle was $3,586,225
e) income earned from takeout and signal fees
was about $245,000, a bit short of the total
purses by $1,398,000.
f) the two races with the largest purses
($200,000 and $800,000) were won by Baffert
and Asmussen - surprise!
g) from what I observe, neither Baffert or
Asmussen started another horse at Sunland
this year.
Yet another example of how racetracks who receive casino dole toss their abundant money around as if
it were candy. Visualize the funding of the
executive pensions.
26 Mar 2012 at 07:44 am | #
Mark, you haven’t been here for a while. I’ve written extensively on the prohibition of race day medication beginning with the 2012 juvenile class.
I’m not defending any one person and everyone knows it’s virtually impossible to win at a 40% rate for an entire meeting without taking an edge by staying one step ahead of the testers.
I respect your love for the game and believe that to be a significant part of your agenda. I, too, want to see horse racing not only survive, but prosper. It needs to pro-act.
Jockey Club initiatives in the area of equine safety are working; let’s hope it’s not too little and too late. But then you look around and realize that tracks are still acting like competitors and not a cooperative, hiding behind the fact that there are different laws for different states.
These days it has become fashionable to say we want the federal government out of our lives. But let’s face it, state houses don’t care, they are more interested in casino revenue than acting to save a “dying sport.” And yet racing won’t dramatically and overtly clean up its act. Trust me, Mark, I feel your pain. That’s why I continue to do what I do, trying in some small way to give back.
Racing can put its past and questionable present behind them. But only if they take dramatic action. You’re right, they had better do something or it WILL be too late. Let’s hope and pray that all our Triple Crown horses come back safely.
26 Mar 2012 at 08:01 am | #
TTT,
Thanks brother, don’t usually like to give out picks and cause a REVOLUTION, especially if they differ from JP. Just trying to have some FUN with it on this great site for people who love this game. I enjoy and look forward to your opinions and others as well. Keep them coming. We are all in this together. The problems can be fixed. We should all stay positive and confident, that the game we love, is going to be ALL RIGHT.
We all know that being a jockey is a very dangerous profession. Nobody puts a gun to a persons head and says your going to be a jockey. They ride cause they love it. It’s not easy keeping low weight, great dedication and love for horses is required. Did you see the joy on Julien Leparoux as he crossed the finish line, yesterday at Sunland.
As for thoroughbred horses, they are born to run. That’s what they love to do. I read where trainer Richard Mandella said, horses like to run and compete against each other, injuries sometimes fatal could happen more often on a prairie than a racetrack.
I believe most horses are very well taken cared for, just like any pet that someone loves. Horses can not talk, but Zenyatta showed her feelings of joy and happiness when she entered the racetrack. Yes there are bad people in the industry, just like any walk of life. People make mistakes, nobody is perfect, most learn from them for the better. The old saying, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones, rings true here.
Yes Wendell the beat goes on…
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it’s evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don’t you know that you can count me out
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right?
All right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We’re all doing what we can
But if you want money
For people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right?
All right, all right
You say you’ll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it’s the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right?
All right, all right
All right, all right, all right
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26 Mar 2012 at 08:16 am | #
John, I’m in almost total agreement with you on The Times piece. Very well and passionately written on your part. The one thing I can’t agree with you on is giving Joe Drape a pass. Thoreau suggested “you can’t kill time without injuring eternity.” Along those lines I’d say you can’t distort, embellish, omit and cherry-pick the facts without injuring the truth. I thought getting at the truth was what journalism was all about. I think we both agree what The Times is doing isn’t about getting at any kind of objective truth.
Anyway, we also agree it’s way past time for racing to change. I don’t think federal intervention is a)constitutional and b)any kind of an actual solution....with one caveat. I don’t think I would oppose a law that banned raceday medication. Anything more broad, I fear, would just be opening Pandora’s box.
26 Mar 2012 at 08:33 am | #
Thank you Pricci for the complement. Yeah I haven’t been around, like I said, i’ve pretty much given up on horse racing.
I think we all fall into a phase where if somebody is “likeable” we tend to give them more slack than somebody who isn’t so outgoing. Bob Baffert, Todd Pletcher and Steve Assmussen are all likeable guys. It would be fun to shoot some pool and drink a beer with these while talking about some of the great horses they’ve trained. On the other hand, guys like Richard Dutrow and Jeff Mullins aren’t so likeable, so if they violate and don’t have supporters, they get suspensions. The first three, they get slaps on the wrists.
But it’s these big guys with a history of violations who are the most visible. What happened in the Life At Ten fiasco was a black eye. Not only does it turn off the novice player, it makes the die-hards re-think their commitment to betting on horses.
Horse racing can’t afford to sweep this under the rug this time. The walls are closing in. We’re finding out that the Slot Money seems to be like making a deal with the devil. Owners and trainers have benefitted in the short term. But already cash strapped politicians are dipping into the till. Slot tracks have a higher rate of breakdowns and slot tracks don’t bring in any new fans. In fact the takeout rates at slot tracks are higher than non-slot tracks.
And the politicians are right. Why should the public subsidize a gambling business?
Lot’s of problems, time for some solutions.
26 Mar 2012 at 09:03 am | #
JRP,
The Times piece is the first part of a series. It’s a bit premature to throw it under the bus.
Was there anything of a substantive nature about the first part which was factually incorrect?
We work in a world where many horsemen’s groups have fought tooth-and-nail against medication reform and transparency.
Do you remember when the NYSRWB tried to implement rules requiring horsemen in NY to keep up-to-date records on medical treatments to their horses, and make them available for official inspection?
Horsemen cried like spoiled babies against a rule which every livestock farmer in America has to abide by, and farmers do it with much less employee help than trainers.
Now we have NYRA officials getting on board, calling for such a regulation, finally catching up with those of us who have asked for this for years. And why has NYRA finally come around? Because it is under the Governor’s gun.
The only way racehorse welfare is going to become a top priority is if the American public demands it. If the Times’ series helps make that happen, good for them.
26 Mar 2012 at 09:10 am | #
JRP,
I know you don’t need my help...and I did have to go deep into the story to find an example....but Teller All Gone wasn’t “dumped.”
26 Mar 2012 at 09:46 am | #
Kyle, I wish you would correct the story if it was wrong. Tell us what happened.
There is no doubt that the Times’ article will get a few facts wrong. But let’s say there are 20 accusations in the story and 4 of them are proven to be inaccurate. Does that make the whole article worthless?
The spin from the racing industry is already starting to happen. Attack the story, prove some things wrong, then let the public think everything is wrong.
If there’s inacuracies, then fine, point them out. But also recognize the statements in the article that are true. Be fair.
26 Mar 2012 at 10:26 am | #
Markinsac,
First let me say I don’t disagree generally with a lot of what you’ve written.
As to the “dumping,” what they did was put the carcass in an out of the way spot, temporarily, before they took it away. This is Ruidoso...the New Mexican desert....it’s not Belmont or Saratoga...the use a place up against the mountains.
This is how The Times led its story. One thing I give them credit for is choosing their words carefully. The characterization of the horse being “dumped” is dishonest, manipulative and indicative of the agenda at work. The SUBSTANCE of this story is an emotive attack on Thoroughbred racing. The choice of words, the imagery...those are the building blocks. If you have any doubt about this go to the online story and read the reader comments. Concentrate on those most recommended by the readers themselves. You won’t find much discussion about varying injury and death rates across surfaces or what to do about raceday medication. What you’ll find are screeds about man’s inhumanity to man and beast and calls for the abolition of horseracing.
26 Mar 2012 at 11:55 am | #
Kyle, we can assume that most people have never been to a horse race and are not fans of the sport. So if there’s an abundance of indignation, I can understand. If the story was about something you and I weren’t to familiar with, we’d react the same way. The story had an “agenda”. Well don’t most stories have an “agenda”?
You may not like the animal rights activists like PETA and others, but you should respect their strengths. Most people love animals, the horsemen included. Wouldn’t it be better to work WITH these people than AGAINST them?(by the way, I am in no way connected to PETA or any other animal rights organization, I haven’t even visited their website)
Here are some suggestions: Instead of the enivitable Big Broter Government coming in to do oversight, why not enlist PETA. Horsemen claim time after time that the race horses are treated like kings and queens. So recruit some young members of PETA to become grooms where they can see for themselves how the horses are cared for. Some of these grooms can work theselves up to trainer status. And they can report back to the organization and the public what’s going on on the backstretch. Also, work with PETA on breakdown sttistics, a true comprensive report on how to make the racing environment safer for horse and jockey. I have observed every study about synthetic tracks. And all point out that synthetic tracks are significantly safer than dirt tracks. Yet many bettors don’t like plastic tracks because they are hard to figure out. To that I say “Then sharpen your handicapping skills.” Any good handicaper faces dirt and synthetic tracks every day. The biggest race in the world, the Dubai World Cup, is run on synthetic. Are we Americans going to ignore change because we are lazy?
As far as the drugs are concerned, get rid of ALL the veternarians that the trainers use. Allow only those supplied by the racetracks themselves. Therefore all trainers will have access to the same legal medications, there would be no edge, unless somebody smuggled something in. No more dirty bags of tricks that the vets bring to the backstretch.
Suggestions.
26 Mar 2012 at 12:31 pm | #
Markinsac,
Welcome back babe, enlist PETA? for grooms? yeah right like that will help. You seem intelligent enough but lost. Did you lose your life savings on the ponies and now hope/want the game to crash?
History shows that evil appears to be a constant in human society. Are you now the devil? Do you have an agenda like PETA, trying to bring down the greatest game on turf? and dirt? If so, no sympathy.
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26 Mar 2012 at 12:48 pm | #
LOST
LOST MY LIFE SAVINGS
AM I THE DEVIL
Because I make SUGGESTIONS on a forum excercising my freedom of speech. Um I think that’s a PERSONAL ATTACK.
Another note: I heard Bob Baffert had a heart attack in Dubai. I wish him well, despite the issues I brought up about him, he’s a talented horseman, and I wish him the best.
Signed: Markinsac
26 Mar 2012 at 12:52 pm | #
Nick,
I don’t dispute much of what was written as being untrue, but I think you will agree it is unfair to compare Quarter Horses to Thoroughbreds-breds as if they were the same sport regulated in the same fashion. The Times used the two breeds interchangeably when the only things they have in common are quadrupeded equines upon which people gamble.
And while I agree that states like California and New York can, and should, test rigorously for medication violations and enforce punishments summarily, smaller states simply don’t have the funding to get the job done. In those cases racing should NOT be conducted. Meaningful oversight must be in place to protect the human and equine athletes and the betting public.
If this is supposed to be an investigative series and if the authors were striving for some balance, it ahould not come in later installments that the readers may not have an opportunity to see.
I’m not defending the industry nor am I castigating the Times out of hand. But I’ve been in the news business long enough to recognize a contrivance when I see one. No one gets a second chance after a first impression has been made.
All the examples in the story dovetail a little too neatly. As I mentioned, how on one hand do you accept anecdotal evidence re young children being upset at the sight of a striken animal then object to racing officials not wanting the public to see such an upsetting sightby putting up screens in cases when euthanasia is the only humane remedy. And all those veterinarians had nothing positive to say? Some may think these are trivialities but they’re emblematic of a bigger picture. Don’t you think the Times is supposed to be held to a higher standard.
Life is lived in the gray areas. But in this case, the gray lady sees things as being black and white. Nothing is that simple and it’s unfair when, as previously stated, tens of thousands of people are painted with the same brush.
26 Mar 2012 at 12:56 pm | #
Gentlemen and ladies, this is an extremely volatile and emotional issue so, PLEASE, let’s all try to keep the discourse at a level above the fray. Thank you.
26 Mar 2012 at 01:16 pm | #
Pricci, I respectfully disagree. The Times’ article may have flaws, but the bottom line is this: IN SO MANY AREAS RACING HAS LOST IT’S POPULARITY. I VOICED MY CONCERNS A WHILE BACK, NOBODY LISTENED. AFTER I READ THE ARTICLE, I CAME HERE TO SHARE WHY I LEFT THE SPORT, BUT NOBODY CARES. THEY KEEP DEFENDING THE STATUS QUO. THEY IGNORE THE STATISTICS THAT POINT TO PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT AREN’T OCCURING IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
THE PREMISE: I DON’T LIKE PETA OR I DON’T LIKE THE NY TIMES THEREFORE I’M GOING TO IGNORE WHAT THEY SAID AND I’LL CALL ANYBODY WHO AGREES WITH THEM THE DEVIL IS JUST PLAIN IGNORANT.
I’VE MOVED ON TO ONLINE POKER AND SPRORTS BETTING. HORSE RACING ISN’T EVEN TRYING TO COMPETE FOR MY GAMBLING DOLLAR. IT JUST STAYS THE SAME AND CONTINUES TO SLIDE. PRICCI, YOU’RE A GOOD MAN AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, BUT IM NOT INVESTING ANY MORE OF MY TIME IN THIS.
GOOD LUCK.
26 Mar 2012 at 01:38 pm | #
Geez, I’m sorry to go off topic, but does anyone out there think Big Ron West can with the tenth at Philly? Thinking of boxing the plodder with Mentidoso.
Sorry to redirect your enthusiam to what racing is all about: picking horses and cashing tickets.
Any of you commentators bet a horse today? Have you all increased handle at a track today?
26 Mar 2012 at 02:07 pm | #
Makinsac,
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. You crucified Bob Baffert, and then backpeddle and say he’s talented?
Wendell,
Nice try with the Sunland figures, did it ever occur to you that some stakes races have sponsors like Yum Brands, Netjets, Emirates etc. That the total handle yesterday was a record for Sunland. That a local trainer won a couple of the stakes and almost the big one. That the race card put Sunland on the map for a day.
Sorry, I can’t help you with Parx Casino and Racing. My work week starts on Wednesday
26 Mar 2012 at 02:24 pm | #
Commentator #43: No matter how you slice it, dice it, or scramble it, Sunday’s race card at Sunland was a financial disaster of the first magnitude.
Does record handle and that a local trainer won a couple of the stake races justify losing way over a million bucks, even though perhaps a couple of sponsors might have covered the huge debt? Reminds me of the ole saw ‘the operation was a success, but the patient died’.
26 Mar 2012 at 02:51 pm | #
Narragansett commentator #44:
Have you ever heard of the marketing strategy lost leader? How many newbies were born yesterday at Sunland? How many existing players found a new track to play? Second place for the local connections of the big race was $160,000 btw. The operation might be a success. The local patient is alive and well.
26 Mar 2012 at 03:14 pm | #
Kyle,
If the use of the word “dumped” is the worst error you can find, I pity the Times your righteous wrath if they actually make a mistake in the series.
As an ex-farmer who had the occasional, unpleasant task of disposing of a dead animal, I can guarantee you that this morning several dairy farmers across America got up, went to the barn, and found a dead cow or heifer. I’ll further guarantee you a few of them turned to hired help and said, “Dump the body outside and I’ll call the dog food truck to pick it up.”
If you doubt conversations like this took place, come to NY’s Capital District and we’ll start out some morning to visit farmers.
If by the end of the day we haven’t found several who have made that comment I’ll pay your transportation costs coming and going. However, if we do, I’d want to see you acknowledge here at HRI that the term “dump” is commonly used when animals are temporarily moved until final disposal.
26 Mar 2012 at 03:23 pm | #
#45: Yea, I am aware of the concept ‘lost leader’. I am also aware that successful companies, managed by competent people, do not use their most costly product as their lost leader.
The local connections might have made $160,000 for second place after the management put up $1,643,000.
Yup, it was a terrific day at Sunland Sunday. Lots of newbies discovered racing, and many existing players will be looking at Sunland from now on. The locals in attendance really sent it in, averaging less than $2 per wager per race.
26 Mar 2012 at 03:54 pm | #
I’d say Andy Beyer got it right, acknowledging the Times is on the right track even while pointing out the flaws in the story.
“But racing may now have reached a critical point. The sport’s fatality rate is being subjected to unprecedented scrutiny. PETA is a formidable and sometimes ruthless adversary. While people in racing may complain that critics distort the facts, the industry doesn’t have a good answer when those critics say that the misuse of drugs is responsible for killing racehorses. Until racing has a proper response to this charge, it will remain under attack.”
http://www.drf.com/news/beyer-racing-confronts-another-crisis
26 Mar 2012 at 04:08 pm | #
Lincoln Downs and out commentor#47
For your information, the attendance figure includes casino dole patrons only, as well as track patrons. The handle for the Casino or “dole” was well over the race card purses.
Put that in your Schlitz tonight and drink it
26 Mar 2012 at 04:30 pm | #
Ahh Nick,
Tinky was right. Maybe you should try stand-up, because you are funny. Unfortunately, you are tiresome as well. And I’m beginning to think insincere. Teller All Gone wasn’t just dumped, but “dumped near an old toilet in a junkyard.” And I never said it was an “error” but a deliberate mischaracterization meant to inflame. Maybe you’re right. Maybe the three writers from The Times throw words around as haphazardly as Fonda dairy farmers. Or are you suggesting maybe their going for some “Faulkner-esque” type thing? You know, local dialect thing.
There are plenty of other problems with the story, along those lines and others. John has discussed some of them in his posts. By the way, noticed you didn’t bring out the Nazi and mass murder references to attack his call for balance. Run out of books you’ve read?
26 Mar 2012 at 05:15 pm | #
Hey Nick,
Heads Up. Bill Shanklin has accused The Times of just trying to sell papers. Toggle over there. Maybe he hasn’t seen your post from yesterday and you can ask him if Shirer, Hersch....and throw in JK Rowling, if you need a third (she wrote Harry Potter; you’ve probably read that). Ask him if they were just trying to sell books.
26 Mar 2012 at 05:52 pm | #
Great thread, but too much time and energy wasted on contesting what the NY Times and PETA say and do instead of making needed change happen. They’re only as effective as they are because the ostriches that run and follow the sport keep their heads in the sand and hope they’ll just go away.
Wake up people, or at least look up from your past performances long enough to see that racing is dying faster than race horses. Our game seems to be followed by people with inbred apathy genes.
And even those willing to use their keyboards would rather debate endlessly than take meaningful action.
How about boycotting claiming races until the HPBAs finally agree to phase lasix out? How hard would tht be?
26 Mar 2012 at 07:29 pm | #
Indulto,
I respect you and your comments as much as anyone on this site. BUT…
Now is not the time to boycott any races. Lasix is being phased out this year with the two year olds at the Breeders Cup, meaning most trainers will not be using lasix for any two year olds unless they need it. You can’t start with the older horses that are already use to lasix now. In time the majority of horses will be running without lasix.
Racing is not dying and is as popular as ever. Record attendance just last year for the KY Derby. Record handle just yesterday for Sunland. Horses still selling for 6 and 7 figures. This all in a historic bad economic period. Competition for the gambling dollar is at a premium with internet gaming and casinos everywhere, unlike years before when horseracing was the only gamble in town.
Do changes and hard decisions need to be made? Yes absolutely. If the “kings and sheikhs” of the sport don’t wise up and correct the issues so be it. They have more invested than Joe the horseplayer, and stand to lose the most.
Florida Derby anyone? 5 days, I’m pumped up already. Union Rags vs. El Padrino
A classic thread needs the boss. Perhaps a song of healing.
Can’t see nothin’ in front of me
Can’t see nothin’ coming up behind
I make my way through this darkness
I can’t feel nothing but this chain that binds me
Lost track of how far I’ve gone
How far I’ve gone, how high I’ve climbed
On my back’s a sixty pound stone
On my shoulder a half mile of line
Come on up for the rising
Come on up, lay your hands in mine
Come on up for the rising
Come on up for the rising tonight
Left the house this morning
Bells ringing filled the air
Wearin’ the cross of my calling
On wheels of fire I come rollin’ down here
Come on up for the rising
Come on up, lay your hands in mine
Come on up for the rising
Come on up for the rising tonight
La,la, la,la,la,la, la,la,la
There’s spirits above and behind me
Faces gone black, eyes burnin’ bright
May their precious blood bind me
Lord, as I stand before your fiery light
La,la, la,la,la,la, la,la,la
I see you Mary in the garden
In the garden of a thousand sighs
There’s holy pictures of our children
Dancin’ in a sky filled with light
May I feel your arms around me
May I feel your blood mix with mine
A dream of life comes to me
Like a catfish dancin’ on the end of my line
Sky of blackness and sorrow ( a dream of life)
Sky of love, sky of tears (a dream of life)
Sky of glory and sadness ( a dream of life)
Sky of mercy, sky of fear ( a dream of life)
Sky of memory and shadow ( a dream of life)
Your burnin’ wind fills my arms tonight
Sky of longing and emptiness (a dream of life)
Sky of fullness, sky of blessed life
Come on up for the rising
Come on up, lay your hands in mine
Come on up for the rising
Come on up for the rising tonight
La,la, la,la,la,la, la,la,la
26 Mar 2012 at 08:13 pm | #
Cat,
I respect your optimism as much as your uncanny ability to match lyrics to a situation, but we could get the powers that be to fix a lot of what’s wrong if we were willing to apply pressure collectively. What exactly are the optimal circumstances that you’re waiting for? Unless we’re willing to act, we’re part of the problem.
27 Mar 2012 at 04:13 am | #
Kyle,
I’m sorry to hear you’re tired out.
Read the Beyer and Shanklin articles, alternating every four hours. Both hit the nail on the head, with the bottom line being critics of the NY Times story can bluster all they want, but the need for a correction of the status quo is obvious for racing to survive and prosper.
That and some bed rest, you’ll be right as rain.
We’ll all hold good thoughts for your recovery.
And I’m shocked, SHOCKED, to hear a newspaper tries to sell more papers. Amazing!
27 Mar 2012 at 05:18 am | #
#49: After reading your reasoned explanation as to why Sunland was successful financially Sunday, I am reminded of the guy who brought a very pretty, young blonde to a cocktail party. Upon entering the room with his trophy on his arm, he spotted the wife of his boss close by. The wife, in their brief conversation, mentioned that the hostess was into exercise, yoga, looked terrific, and was extremely intelligent. The trophy then remarked, “and smart too”.
27 Mar 2012 at 05:28 am | #
JRP,
The NY Times published a strident, PETA-like editorial on racing. I linked it below.
This is what racing has wrought by stonewalling meaningful reform of medication and transparency in the game.
The countdown has begun as to whether we fix this thing or others do it for us. I’d say it is odds-on we won’t like what outsiders do.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/opinion/racehorses-to-the-slaughter.html?_r=1&ref=sports
27 Mar 2012 at 06:34 am | #
Nick, I’m afraid that racing’s leaders--whoever you are, please step up--don’t have the will to make a difference.
I never felt this way before and certainly never has written it, but the clock is ticking.
Here’s the pity, a permissivre medication ban will, in the long term, will result in breeding healthier animals--even though I probably won’t around to see it.
27 Mar 2012 at 07:10 am | #
Preach,
Where are the Ramsey’s, Moss’s, Pegram’s, Tabor’s, Hancock’s, Mohammed’s etc.?
Indulto,
Just thought that a boycott now would be like joining PETA on the pickett line. My protest is takeout pools of 15% or higher, I play more WPS and pick 4’s with low takeout now. Horseplayers really don’t have a union or organization strong enough to boycott effectively anyway.
Man O War #56,
Did it ever occur to you that horseracing also helps the casino? That between races, horseplayers could play slots? That couples attending a day at the races might have a spouse more interested in the casino?
and the beat or dole goes on ....
27 Mar 2012 at 07:31 am | #
So why hasn’t the National Association of Turf Writers formulated an organized plan and objective that would hold racetrack executives accountable?
If all turf writers were on the same page and whistling the same tune, things might improve.
I hope that you commentators above will do your part today and bet on a few plodders. I know it is off topic, and I really wish I didn’t have to keep reminding readers at HRI, but racing needs gamblers not people who merely work a keyboard.
Philly’s card looks good today. Nice size fields to get involved with the pick threes. Am kind of hung up on Shoe Shine Man in the 6th - should go well today.
27 Mar 2012 at 07:45 am | #
I’m defeated. You win, Nick. I have to agree. The story is a “contrivance” (JRP), full of inaccuracies with a flawed methodology at its heart (Beyer), and a desperate, disingenuous attempt to garner readership (Shanklin). Thanks for sticking with me. I’m slow on the uptake sometimes.
27 Mar 2012 at 09:06 am | #
We all realize that our industry has slipped in credibility over the years, with real problems; e.g., the Lasix problem (inter alia), but the money powers that are making enormous sums of cash from their casino endeavors, which they did on the coattails of horse racing, should try examining their own industry, and how it has degraded society as a whole; increasing crime and ruining famlies, instead of attempting to gain support to do away with thoroughbred horse racing, or make us just an afterthought. Bastards. This rag they call the New York times, is nothing but a glorified National Enquirer, that uses bigger words for the beautiful people, attempting to sway public opinion in the direction that will best suit their pocket books, and the pocket books of those who control the galaxy. My the horse be with us.
TTT
27 Mar 2012 at 09:16 am | #
Teddy,
To be fair. There is a huge difference between The Times and The National Enquirer. One has no sacred cows and will actually break stories no other paper will go near. The other is idealogical to its bones and does nothing but pander to the initiated.
27 Mar 2012 at 10:22 am | #
Yep the sport of Kings is dead, and I have swamp land in Jersey for sale real cheap. Last night at the Fasig-Tipton Sales for two year olds, a Big Brown colt sold for 1.3 million, a Distorted Humor colt for 1.2 million and a Tapit colt for 1 million.
The clock is not ticking, the game is bullet proof, and the Kings are tiptoeing all the way to the bank.
27 Mar 2012 at 12:24 pm | #
The rivalry continues: Rachel Alexander in foal to Zenyatta’s first partner Bernadini.
Mott says Royal Delta feeling sassy after 1 3/8 workout this morning in company again with Lucky Chappy(UAE Derby), for 10 million Dubai World Cup this Saturday. Game on Dude also in the desert classic for Bob Baffert who might get out of hospital in time for race. Best wishes Bob.
Mark Valeski vs Cigar Street in La. Derby Sunday. Yes Cigar Street is related to the uncomparable, sensational Cigar. Nehro, Mission Impazible, Toby’s Corner and Pants on Fire in the New Orleans HDCP.
Union Rags vs. El Padrino in the Florida Derby. Awesome Maria goes in the Rampart, but no Awesome Feather.
27 Mar 2012 at 12:33 pm | #
Whether the NY Times was biased regarding racing is irrelevant. All the sound and fury about it’s bias is a waste of time and energy.
The genie was out of the bottle before Sunday’s story. All it did was bring it to a wider audience.
In case anyone missed it, a California paper (sorry, I forget which one) published a Santa Anita injury article the same day. Is that a surprise, given the high rate of fatalities out there since the dirt was reinstalled?
In case anyone missed it, the Governor of NY was already after NYRA, using the inner track breakdowns as an excuse.
In case anyone missed it, the so-called leadership of this sport has been unable to raise one sliver of evidence to counteract the Times story, or any of the other attacks.
In case anyone missed it, horsemen’s groups all over the country still have their heels dug in over medication reform. One ‘leader’ used the lame defense raceday medication needs to be used to keep horses “going.” That’s a ringing defense if I’ve ever heard one.
Rather than killing energy on the NY Times, which like any good Capitalistic enterprise, wants to sell it’s product, we should be getting ahead of this.
31 Mar 2012 at 11:24 am | #
Gents,
Lemonade may be on the way, given the Jockey Club’s raceday medication ban proposal and lifetime suspensions for repeat offenders, et al.
If all this comes to pass, uniform rules, etc., I’m happy if a somewhat disingenous article proves the catalyst for change.
The horsemen had better embrace this: The Feds are right around the corner.
JP
31 Mar 2012 at 01:22 pm | #
Most of us agree ending the era of training by pharmacology would be a good thing. But as if we needed a reminder that nothing is ever going to eliminate breakdowns - and breakdowns on big stages - we got Dubai today. By the way, was that not insane to re-run that race? So, in addition to making changes to the drug/medication culture racing also has to be sure to defend its right to exist. A notion I think has been woefully lacking in the various responses to The Times - save Steve Christ’s.
31 Mar 2012 at 03:38 pm | #
Kyle,
Your commentary on this subject elsewhere was excellent. What frustrates me about Crist and Irwin is that they call for action by racing’s leadership, but seldom, if ever, mention which individuals might constitute said leadership.
Maybe some journalist will eventually identify the ten most influential people in racing and get their opinions as to how racing might go about creating a central authority and recommend capable representatives they would trust to draft uniform rules of racing and wagering as well as form the nucleus of an executive body.
02 Apr 2012 at 09:00 pm | #
It took me a few days to get around to it, but I can’t agree with the first part of this article. For one thing, Sunland Park is a nice place. I went on an average Saturday last year and the place was hopping with horse players. Great tacos for cheap and $2.00 24 oz. Tecate. Much more enthusiastic atmosphere than I found at Gulfstream last Sunday.
And as a fan, I like the Graded Stakes rule. I want to see good horses run, preferably against each other. Why encourage the babying of horses? Why not reward soundness and activity as well as winning. Get out there and run your horses. If Gemologist or Alpha don’t make the cut, tough. That’s on their trainer for not getting it done.