But I certainly would categorize both of us as old school, in the best sense of the term but on this issue Mr. Paulick is out of touch; not necessarily philosophically but in all practicality.
The way the game is played today, making scores in exotic and super-exotic pools is not only an exciting way for the action crowd to participate in horse racing but the only way the average horseplayer can survive.
Until straight wagers are raked at a realistic max of 12 percent and a full frontal promotional assault is made on Wall Street gamblers--especially day-traders—increasing churn via straight wagering is as practical today as high-button shoes are fashionable.
In a recent blog post, Paulick began with a quote from the ivory-towered Charles Cella, who holds dominion over all things Oaklawn: “I think exotic wagering is the worst thing in the world for horse racing.”
At one time, Cella was onto something when he said that wagers with a lesser degree of difficulty kept players around a lot longer.
Given today’s dwindling betting base and high blended takeout rates, however, tracks no longer have the luxury of churning their way to profitability in the traditional sense.
And isn’t profitability still the only way all of us--big, small and weekend warrior; owner, trainer and casual fan keep score?
As Larry the Liquidator of “Other People’s Money” fame once said, the quickest way to go down the tubes is getting an increasing share of a shrinking pie.
Given the shortage of customers and “recreational” money, what remains are people who know what they’re doing. Of course, there are various levels of expertise.
But bettors who win consistently are still those that outwork the competition and, given that, the biggest problem for horseplayers trying to survive and advance is remaining focused on the task.
Expertise and undisciplined greed notwithstanding, lack of focus and exhaustion from today’s stress-filled lifestyles are the enemies of all horseplayers seeking success on a consistent basis.
Add to this the large betting menus of today’s simulcast marketplace, where nine of every 10 dollars are wagered, conflicting post times and lack of a uniform payout structure requiring a few extra seconds of thought are needless distractions.
Parenthetically, time come for all payoffs to be posted at the uniform rate of one dollar since that’s how odds are commonly posted. Further, all fractional wagers should posted at the lowest denominator, i.e. Dime Supers and, where available, 50-Cent Pick 5s, 4s, 3s, trifectas, etc.
Posting trifectas, superfectas and sequential wager payoffs at a $2 rate insults the intelligence of horseplayers everywhere and is a disingenuous and deceptive promotion that should be stopped.
Tracks should know that even whales take advantage of the leverage provided by fractional wagers and, believe it or not, horseplayers are capable of simple multiplication.
Continuing this digression, guaranteed minimums are real and provide a basis for players getting involved in certain pools, especially large bettors, but over-the-top shilling by simulcast hosts suggesting that players are getting something extra, or that you could win a million bucks for a dime is, at best, sophomoric.
Paulick correctly notes that it’s very likely that more exotic players are losing today and winnings are winding up in the hands of fewer players, which is why today’s average bettor has to outwork parimutuel opponents to mitigate potential bankroll gaps.
It’s no secret that larger professional players and serious recreationalists are betting through rebate shops, including some well-known industry types that keep this fact on the down low.
Further, racing’s biggest gamblers can buy sophisticated batch betting models that guarantee a profitable return if the handicapper can consistently eliminate four or five horses in a 12-horse field, far easier than identifying four or five top contenders.
While there’s nothing illegal about it, batch wagering can only succeed if the projections are based on accurate odds. That accuracy can only be guaranteed at the end of any wagering session.
In a game where late-odds fluctuations are routine, even at America’s biggest venues, late-odds changes are anathema to straight win players who must have value--disproportionately higher reward than risk—to survive. Grinding out straight value plays consistently is virtually impossible
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Exotics make the game harder because of the higher degree of difficulty; no argument. But they also provide a means for the average player to leverage his smaller bankroll by giving himself more ways to beat a race or series of races.
In this fashion, average players can take advantage of mistakes when the big player overleverages his bankroll which consequently creates more value for his parimutuel rivals. When it comes to wagering in today’s game there’s no easy route to success.
Indeed, takeout levels originally increased with the proliferation of exotic bets, but with the success of tracks such as Betfair Hollywood and Tampa Bay Downs, to name just two, the pendulum is swinging the other way.
Tracks are making sequential wagers more attractive by offering some bets at a vastly reduced rate which in turn increases pool size and provides opportunities for higher payoffs because lower takeout is a rebate for all.
Where Paulick’s logic gets faulty is in not realizing that a 14% Pick 5 does not tie up money for five races; it actually increases intra-race handle and wagering in other sequentials such as the Pick 4 , Pick 3 and Rolling Double.
Saver wagers are no longer regarded as throwing good money after bad. If the whale is using his money to leverage his wagers and increase his chances of profitability, so, too, can the average player given the benefits of combining low-takeout sequentials with fractional buy-ins.
Back when life was simpler, when illegal sports betting wasn’t as mainstream as it is now, there wasn’t a casino or OTB parlor on every corner, no simulcasting, and everyone went to the track to bet win, place, show and the daily double, insuring pool liquidity, it was possible to patiently grind out profits by churning bankrolls.
Exotics and super-exotics no longer are about competing with lottery or casino jackpot payouts, although that thinking prevails. Handicapping is an intellectual exercise, not unlike poker, only horses are used to beat other humans, not a deck of cards. So to compare betting on horses with other forms of gaming, sports betting notwithstanding, is to insult the handicapping process.
The digital age, with its quality-of-information explosion, coupled with the shrinking pie phenomenon, has made grinding out profits all but impossible.
Most successful horseplayers today take a portfolio approach to wagering. They begin with their preferred wager, usually a high risk-high reward bet, and use surrounding pools to grow profits via arbitraging. That’s horseplaying in the modern age.
Even for the recreational player, the game demands a long term approach. Straight betting, mind-numbing simplicity notwithstanding, will not sustain players in the long term under current market conditions and given the current blended tax rates.
Making a score no longer is cause for calling a travel agent, it’s simply the path to fiscal survival. But only if the would-be winning horseplayer insists on increasing his knowledge, honing his wagering skills and--I almost forgot—focus, focus, focus.


05 Feb 2013 at 12:38 pm | #
focus? Try playing cards without it...handicapping horses is one thing,the horse does not read the odds,a good card player can read the other players...I walked away from the ponies almost a year now,made a hand full of bets since.I will follow the Derby,have a few sleepers I like...being that you are in Florida now,look around there are a couple of monsters hiding in the barns...March will be a great month for them...do not look past Hot Springs this year......check your contacts there,Derby winner will come from there this year..he is a Monster.....
05 Feb 2013 at 03:52 pm | #
Where Paulick’s logic gets faulty is in not realizing that a 14% Pick 5 does not tie up money for five races; it actually increases intra-race handle and wagering in other sequentials such as the Pick 4 , Pick 3 and Rolling Double.
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It has/does increase handle on races in the sequence. That’s a fact rarely brought up. Right on John!
05 Feb 2013 at 04:16 pm | #
Right now they couldn’t go down to 12% take on WPS and make any money at all. If it wasn’t for the boycott giving them a bloody nose they would have made WPS 16% instead of the current 15.43 which is the lowest of any major jurisdiction.
I find that I get the best results when I start with a WP bet on a 5-1 or higher, maybe an exacta box or two and then go into the the other wagers. One of the things about the multi-race exotics is that you can spread a lot without making much of a commitment. I find that when I start with the WP bet I narrow down the contenders to a few or single the one I like best in the P’5’s, 4’s, 3’s.
05 Feb 2013 at 08:25 pm | #
Walk into an OTB these days?
Hardly anybody bets WPS. Everybody bets exotics.
The place is full of horseplayers at the start of the day as I walk in. By the fourth race, the place is half full. By the feature race, there’s maybe a quarter of the crowd left, probably less. A couple of people are alive in a Pick 4 and are just watching to see what happens. Once in a while someone wins big. Most of the time everybody leaves broke.
Sorry, but, it was better years ago with lower takeout and less exotics. You’d collect more often, even if it wasn’t for as much, and you’d have a better time too.
I’ll keep playing. Guess I’m hardcore.
I’ve had enough of picking 3 out of 4. I’ll take it one race at a time. Do my own research and handicapping. Wait for good opportunities and pick my spots.
05 Feb 2013 at 08:34 pm | #
And when i say people go home broke - I’m not kidding, because now they don’t just want your last 2 dollars, they want your last dime!
05 Feb 2013 at 08:36 pm | #
Yes Denny. It’s the reach in the cigarette tray/lighter for enough change to buy a double cheesburger on the value menu at McDonalds.
By the way if they could find a way to take your blood and sell it along with stealing the tires off your car they would. No hesitation.LOL
05 Feb 2013 at 11:40 pm | #
Denny, you know, if there NEVER were such a thing as exotics maybe the game would be a lot healthier than it is now. But the competition, without ever having to think, offered opportunites for life changing scores. I can’t say that if I were in charge of a racetrack, I wouldn’t have done the same thing, just being honest.
But WPS betors go home broke, too. They did back in the day; I know, I was there. However, I always had one rule; I never bet my eating money and never ate my betting money. Sort of worked out OK.
As Mr. Paulick wrote, however, the genie has left the bottle. AA, that’s a good approach, starting out in the straight pool to narrow your best opinion then start spreading into other pools. That’s what I was referring to re a betting portfolio.
Handicappers are either proficient in one pool or have several they’re comfortable with. A betting portfolio is little more than a parimutuel hedge fund. But without focus and hard work…
06 Feb 2013 at 09:12 am | #
There’s a scandal on the horizon with the rainbow.
One or two larcenous trainers could pull it off.
06 Feb 2013 at 09:15 am | #
Denny the scandal with the rainbow is that if you have say 5 horses in the last including the favorite and one scratches you could end up with 2 tickets and be disqualified from the jackpot.
06 Feb 2013 at 10:08 am | #
C’mon, Denny. What, one or two trainers will hold back likely singles? What happens when the little old lady’s birthday blows up the whole scheme?
I couldn’t do my job effectively without a healthy does of skepticism, but let’s keep the paranoia on the down low, OK?
06 Feb 2013 at 01:11 pm | #
Andrew,
I raised the point you brought up when the Rainbow 6 was introduced. I was told in this scenario, the bettor would be treated as if he or she has the only winning ticket.
06 Feb 2013 at 01:43 pm | #
They should use the term “transactions” instead of tickets. that way someone could play a $1 or $10 ticket if they really liked the card. That would improve handle.
06 Feb 2013 at 03:39 pm | #
Mr. Pricci, you write ‘until straight wagers are raked at a realistic max of 12% .... straight wagering is as practical as high-button shoes’; I don’t think, I know, that this statement is totally ridiculous! Steven Crist probably agrees with you, having on numerous occasions referred to win wagering as grandma’s bet. Well, I love grandma’s bet. And, if the wagering pools are checked, it will be apparent that win wagering is still the dominant choice of the countless lost souls who still hope to make a buck or two gambling on the ponies.
Today the takeout on win bets varies from 15% to 17% and upwards; the racetracks that turf writers cater to are within this range. So, let’s look at a bit of math (math being pure and uncorruptible):
If a plodder pays $5.80 to win with the takeout rate being 17%, the payoff would be $5.94 with a takeout rate of 15% and $15.90 if the rate were 12%. A nag paying $15 to win would pay $15.36 if the takeout rate were 15%, and $15.90 if the takeout rate were 12%. Do you readers out there really believe that reducing takeout from 17% or 15% to 12% means anything to anyone?
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Mr. Pricci: Recently I have observed that you are now presenting a different format as to your success (if that is the right word) with you daily selection. You post that since 2007 you have made 1,249 selections, have wagered $2,500, and collected $2,607.80 for a profit of $107.80. May I ask what is the message? From my reading of the data, I have concluded that a) if I had wagered on your selections I would have won $107.80; b) would not have lost any money, and c) wouldn’t have made any money either. Where’s the money, honey?
Now, to you readers, er gamblers (I hope), I would like to write that until the pick three came into existence, gambling on the ponies was not that profitable, though I never had to take a second mortage on the house either thanks to the pick two (the doubles Alice); it was two-thirds entertainment and one-third seeking profit. The pick three has become a very rewarding wager for me. Now, when I go to the local OTB joint it is no longer entertainment, but seeking money, honey.
What’s this ‘batch wagering’ all about? Ya gotta remember, that these guys who are batch wagering are sending it in, and when they miss, your $2 ticket is worth that much more thanks to these so-called experts.
I love’s this ‘game’. Particularly when seated in a racebook at a couple of my favorite casinos in Las Vegas when the ‘boys’ with their hundred dollar bills wager; and I collect with my $20 wager.
And the beat goes on and on .....
06 Feb 2013 at 04:03 pm | #
I’m gonna have to agree with wmorrow’s comments in relation to his first two paragraphs; I’m not concerned with the take-out on win wagering. I don’t think a higher takeout on WPS is detrimental to the game.
Also, I love exotic wagering, especially the 50-cent late pick-4 because it gives me a great chance to make a good amount of money with a small bankroll.
06 Feb 2013 at 07:10 pm | #
JP,
What paranoia? Races haven’t been “fixed” before?
Difference is that before, what could you win? - thousands of dollars? Now you could win millions!
I’d say tere’s more incentive now than ever.
It’s not that difficult to imagine either. A trainer or two with entrants in multiple races is necessary.
Enter and stiff a couple of heavy favorites. Darken the form on a longshot (like that’s never been done before?). Put over a first time starter with really slow workouts (lead pads or an overweight exercise rider, maybe an unpublished wo?). A form reversal with the aid of a little “juice” (remember OSB?). Should I go on?
You single the “impossible” longshots. Leave out the “can’t lose” favorites. Cover all the other logical contenters (not hard to do when the unit is 10 cents), you might just be the lone winner.
There’s currently $1,399,000 reasons why it might be worth it. That number grows daily, there’s no telling how big it could get.
Please don’t tell me I’m the only one thinking it can be done. I wasn’t born yesterday.
DM
06 Feb 2013 at 07:20 pm | #
How many “little old ladys with hat pins” are out there anymore, anyway?
06 Feb 2013 at 09:55 pm | #
TJ & AA,
Have you known this to actually happen? If a favorite is substituted and wins, the odds against a single bettor having all winning combos would seem astronomical.
Does the Rainbow 6 accept alternative selections the way the California Pick Six does (or did)?
06 Feb 2013 at 10:44 pm | #
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ynJIsRXha0
I don’t think they take alternates and the would probably lose a lawsuit over this if challenges. The should say transactions and not ticket. But what do you expect from a bunch of rookies.
Cal. can bury them all if the do the right stuff.
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07 Feb 2013 at 09:26 am | #
A 50 cent Pick 6 wager with no consolations and a jackpot provision whereby 15% of the pool carries over if there are more than 3 TRANSACTIONS ( or pick your number). I would say anywhere from 2-5 transactions.
The difference between transactions and tickets is that it allows someone to play say a $5 increment and not be penalized for having it more than one time if they really like the sequence. That helps handle. The one ticket only thing might be a good marketing gimmick but that also makes it a BAD bet.
Oh yah, and make the takeout a REASONABLE 18%.
I noted that there would be no consolation even though there could be if that’s what that’s what the Track wants to have. I think that the only time winners without 6 (say 5) should be paid is if there are NO Tickets with 6. In that case 25% of the pool should be paid to those Gamblers. The remainder goes into a carryover pool.
Additionally there would have to be 2 pools in the event of nobody hitting 6 and along with the JACKPOT POOL (equal to 15% of the pool) in the event there are more transactions with 6 than required. For some reason 3 or less transactions with 6 sounds about right to qualify for the jackpot bonus.
From a marketing standpoint California Racing would be able to send out an email every day with either a Jackpot amount or a jackpot and a carryover amount. This is a good way to go about it because it is a fair bet unlike the Gulfstream 10 cent P6 and only one ticket B.S.
This will handle a minimum of 500k on weekdays and 750k on weekends but likely will handle a lot more than that. At 500k you would have $57,240 going into the jackpot after the takeout. My guess is that the Jackpot will be paid every week or two and hitting the jackpot along with having 6 is a huge bonus. The tracks should get 1-3 carryovers per meet. On carryover days if the jackpot is high too the new money bet could be astronomical and easily exceed the current Gulf. jackpot pool of 1.4 million dollars. Getting 2-5 million in new money on those days is easily attainable when you consider that at Del Mar last season they got 2.5 million in new money on a P5 carryover day.
Any improvements to the suggestion?
07 Feb 2013 at 09:40 am | #
$1000 win pool $300 bet on the winner
raw
net odds price payout
17.00% 170 830 2.67 7.33 7.20
15.00% 150 850 2.83 7.67 7.60
12.00% 120 880 2.93 7.87 7.80
It’s hard to believe that prices at most tracks are still ‘rounded’ this way, but I think I would rather have 12% take out
08 Feb 2013 at 10:13 am | #
Thanks RD. Why not send this to every legislator in every state house where there’s racing?
Come to think of it, never mind; they probably would have a tough time spelling churn, anyway.
08 Feb 2013 at 12:14 pm | #
rdid13
You’re calculations are incorrect.
After takeout is removed. The amount bet on the winner is divided into the amount bet on the losers to determine odds.
In you’re example:
1000 - 15% = 850
850 - 300 = 550
550/300 = 1.83
$5.60 after breakage
08 Feb 2013 at 01:57 pm | #
you are absolutely right,sorry. The point was suppose to be about breakage, $5.80 is better then $5.20
08 Feb 2013 at 05:00 pm | #
thanks. you’re absolutely spot on on breakage, it’s highway robbery and the lower the odds, the worse it gets. outright thievery IMO.
08 Feb 2013 at 06:10 pm | #
Takeout? My sister’s horse just won at Golden Gate and paid $9.80 to win. I don’t mind the extra percentage. On another note, she was celebrating like she won the Derby and it was only a $5000 claiming with a $10000 purse. Wonderful sport!
09 Feb 2013 at 08:33 am | #
Wally, I was fortunate to experience that feeling in my short career as a horse owner; there’s nothing like it!
JP