SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY, February 19, 2010--Received a private e mail the other day from loyal HRI contributor Dennis Dotson with a subject line so brilliant that I decided to give the issue an airing, for about the thousandth time.
The issue is the always regressive, counter-productive tax on horseplayers, parimutuel takeout, which is draining any remaining liquidity from the betting pools.
Want to stop those late-odds flashes, or at least slow them down? How about a pool the size of which cannot be adversely affected by a handful of large wagers?
Dotson’s introductory subject line was, in fact, so crystal clear at assessing this issue that you read it in the headline that introduced this piece. The only answer, indeed.
For his part, Dotson is fighting his own battle, one that has made him the bane of every New York Racing Association executive he has written to last year and this.
What Dotson wants to know, and what he feels is his privilege as a valued customer, is whatever happened to the “Survivor” contest, and why can’t he get a reasonable explanation as to why it was discontinued?
He might have received an answer had he refrained from his liberal use of colorful phrases. Frustration, it seems, saps patience from us all.
So, as he stated in his letter: “The Survivor contest attracted thousands of handicapping players from all over the world….
“[Fans] played the contest and many played the daily cards through their local and/or ADW venues. These are thousands that do not live in the state of New York….
“I have written this same e mail six times without one reply….
“The fact that yours was $10 per entry (unlimited entries) and the prize pool climbed upwards of $50,000 at nearly every NYRA track should be screaming volumes at you to bring it back…”
Dotson went on to list a number of tracks that offer this type of on-line contest for free, namely Santa Anita’s, which recently added “Winvivor” to complement its “Showvivor” contest already in place.
Of course, the prize pool at Santa Anita, Youbet.com, and other venues is much smaller--$2,500 was the common amount--than the one offered in the NYRA’s pay-to-play contest.
Digressing, and speaking of “fat chance” issues, is the hope that state legislators from Anywhere, U.S.A. will learn something about the laws of supply and demand that eventually put all those that ignore this axiom out of business.
Or, as Dotson reflected, quoting Einstein: "We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Which brings us to a bill recently introduced by Kentucky House Speaker Pro-Tem Larry Clark that would tax bets made by Kentuckians through account wagering companies such as Churchill Downs Inc.’s TwinSpires.com.
This genius believes that a 0.5 percent tax on advance deposit wagers made by Kentucky residents would generate as much as $400,000 a year.
Really? That much?
Clark envisions that the 400K would be split three ways among the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission, whichever track is operational at the time, with the balance going toward that track’s purses.
Would someone please inform Clark that this amount buys the tracks about two really good allowances races--after first explaining what an allowance race is.
So I guess this means that the 400K would be collected about three times a year so that Churchill Downs, Turfway and Ellis Park could share the largesse. The alternative would be to let them fight among themselves for these table scraps.
But the best part of Clark’s reasoning as to why this kind of commerce should be taxed? “I think it’s something we need to do,” he said. “It’s the fastest growing betting we have now ... and we need to capture some of that revenue (to) put back into purses.”
The bill apparently is a compromise of the one Clark proposed last year that died in committee, calling for a 3.5 percent tax. The current tax rate would be similar to ones imposed by Illinois and Virginia on account wagering.
My question is why the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission needs a third of this projected $400,000. Could it be to pay for commissioners’ salaries?
A few years ago, something like that quietly occurred in New York when a portion of the parimutuel takeout was redirected by law to pay for Racing and Wagering Board operations. America in action: Create a regulatory agency then eventually allow horseplayers to pay for it.
I say go for it, Mr. Clark. Nip this growth thing in the bud. Kill any forward momentum online wagering has and the hope of salvation it provides. Kill it because the Internet is the only avenue for growth left, at least until the current model is scrapped. Fat chance of that, too.
So, as Dotson suggests from his research: “Have a little faith; let God go first.” Or this:
“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it, and a moral code that glorifies it.”





19 Feb 2010 at 05:03 am | #
Hats off to Dennis Dotson for getting involved and making a good point.
How did so many people like Larry Clark end up in positions of power?
In my opinion Horseplayers need to be more agressive in opposing these types of destructive taxes.
Stand up and fight!
Live long and prosper Horseplayers! God knows we deserve to after all the stuff we put up with.
19 Feb 2010 at 07:29 am | #
Kudos to Dotson.
He’s 100% correct.Survivor was a fun and no doubt attracted players to play the NYRA cards as well as the contest.
Can anyone possibly be more tone deaf than NYRA management??
Hayward and Co would be doing us all a favor if they’d take a hike.
19 Feb 2010 at 07:49 am | #
Gents,
It might sound self serving, but I don’t care. HRI regulars are simply the best; honest, passionate, not afraid to get in and mix it up--especially
with the staff, and the editor. That’s OK with us. We want to be held accountable to your standards. Thanks for taking the time…
JRP
19 Feb 2010 at 08:24 am | #
JP,
Another great column! Kudos to Mr. Dotson for hitting so many nails on the head. One thing I believe in. As you stated above, the passion on this sight is addictive. But of even more importance is the information gleaned from all sides. I’d be hard pressed to find this in many other sites.
19 Feb 2010 at 11:19 am | #
Track Sponsored Free Online Contests such as Santa Anita’s Showvivor and Hollywood Park’s Show Me The Money is an extremely effective way to stimulate fan involvement and is a promotion well worth the cost of running it and value of the prize money awarded. I do know that there are some jurisdictions where it is more difficult to have handicapping contests. For example, the current Road To The Roses Contest overed by Churchill Downs specifically states that residents of Arizona, Florida, New York and Rhode Island are not eligible to receive prizes and I think at least in Florida there are restrictions on handicapping contests due to legislation. That said, if the NYRA Survivor contest was discontinued for some sort of regulatory reason, they should have at least given the writer the courtesy of a response stating that was the case.
19 Feb 2010 at 01:29 pm | #
No question, Theresia. It’s nice to be nice, and I don’t think it’s a legislative issue in NY. At least I don’t think so.
And you’re right. Free contests compel players to look at that track’s races. Certainly can’t hurt.
Thanks JB, you’re one of those passionate people I was thinking about when I wrote those words.
JP
24 Feb 2010 at 11:50 am | #
Thanks, John, for taking my email and the subject and sharing it with the rest of the readers here.
A very nice job.
I have sent several emails to the “new” NYRA for several years now on just this one subject. NOT one reply. From anyone at any address they provide for public communication.
I look at their product and I read the news of the regressive nature of any attempts at helping racing in NY and it is not too hard to see that it is a highly mentally challenged group involved in making the key decisions for racings future.
My own belief is that they have reduced their personnel to the bone and they simply do not have a web master or programmer and a supervisory person to run the contest any more. NY simply does not have anyone qualified any more to run racing, period.
Maybe, rather than tell me the truth, they simply don’t reply. Or the one person doing ALL the work now does not have time. They were for sure the best online contests of that type ever offered. Maybe 2nd only to Hawthornes free version that offered a $100,000 bonus to anyone who could survive the entire season. They did that twice before hard times stopped it. They still have the $2,500 versions that I am still alive in today.
Would sign up in a second if NYRA brought theirs back. Always bought 10 entries and I finished in the top 5 once. Still money ahead. I have been playing other contests and do not bother with NY racing unless a contest race is at their track. I quit all wagering on races in 2002 after the pic-6 scandal. Free parking, #1 dogs and beer, and increasing taxes are sure as hell not gonna get me back. I happen to be fairly skilled at poker. No shortage there.
I will keep watching and reading but I am not going to play or wait on them. Life is too short but these morons don’t know that, either. lol
Later all.
24 Feb 2010 at 11:54 am | #
CORRECTION $1 dogs and beer… LOL
25 Feb 2010 at 12:37 am | #
And the KY government has the answer… They passed the tax increase on ADW wagers made in their state.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/55550/ky-panel-approves-excise-tax-on-adws?utm_medium=email&uid=A692F502-EA62-435E-9511-631E49741529&utm_source=DailyNewsletter&utm_campaign=20100225
KY Panel Approves Excise Tax on ADWs
By The Associated Press
Updated: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:02 PM
Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:24 PM
The growing popularity of online wagering on horse races is getting the attention of Kentucky lawmakers looking for ways to boost live racing in the state.Such online and phone betting has been a growing segment of betting on U.S. thoroughbred racing.
The House Appropriations and Revenue Committee on Feb. 23 approved a bill that would levy an excise tax on advance deposit wagering providers.
Democratic Rep. Larry Clark of Louisville, the bill’s lead sponsor, said the tax would be equal to 0.5% of money wagered by Kentucky residents through ADW providers.
Clark said two-thirds of the revenue generated by the tax would be returned to Kentucky racetracks, with half that amount devoted to boosting race purses. Clark said the intent is to generate more live racing with larger fields to help Kentucky’s racing industry.
The legislation is House Bill 368.